CGI Angels
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There were some shots of the Angels when they were fighting the Vampire Squadron (shades of Buffy the Vampire slayer in that sentence? ).
It struck me that - as far as one could tell - Harmony Angel was a blonde-haired woman, quite unlike the red-head we see in later episodes.
There was also an (un-named) Oriental pilot. Quite frustratingly the credits were shoved aside by CITV for some slapstick with 2 hyenas and a small person - which was supposed to make us want to watch MoM - so I wasn't able to see which Angel that was supposed to be.
The Fanderson site, less than helpfully, merely says all the Angels feature in IoD pt 2. (I suppose they might not have a clue either, mind you.)
Does anyone know which Angel is which? Destiny we know only to well, and the Harmony we see later in the series is a red-head with an American accent.
It would be nice to have an idea who the others are...
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I don't think all the CGI characters were finalised at that point and a generic "Destiny type" figure was being used - look at when they all run to their Falcons - they all look just the same. One difference though - I think the Japanese pilot was Melody this time and she had a long dark hair style when you see her in her Falcon cockpit.
When the annual comes out maybe we'll work out which Angel is which nationality this time round.
Roll on series 2.
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The first draft of the script for 'The Mysterons' states one of the Angels is Russian, and it is implied in an early instalment of the strip in 'Lady Penelope' that one is from Sweden!
And Melody, who is supposedly the only girl in a family of older brothers, suddenly gains a younger sister called Ellie-Jo in one strip!
I would say there is a danger of 'boxing in' a character too much early on in 'character histories' unless they are supposed to be a bible. Yes it probably helps if you know age, nationality and have a brief bio for writers to have a degree of continuity but it's not as if 'Captain Scarlet' is a character study! It's an action series...
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Harmony was also another case. Despite the fact that her name is obviously of Chinese origins, she is said be have been born in Japan. I'm guessing that dad must be Chinese, then - and perhaps mom is Japanese...
I won't mention Rhapsody and her all-too-many backgrounds...
Most of those facts do come from earlier documents (meaning Century 21 mags, strips, earlier annual stuff) and it would seem that in later years, that information tend to adjusted itself and became more consistent.
At least in most of the case. I still recall a fairly recent information stating that Captain Grey is 5 foot 11, while another source said that he was 6 foot 3. Must have done A LOT of stretching exercices, if you want my opinion...
Sorry for going slightly off-topic here But to link this to the discussed subject - I guess that until the background is well-defined and actually published, we will probably see some of those same disparities amonsgt the new CGI characters.
By the way, had anybody else noticed that the information about Destiny had changed on the official site? From a French/American nationality, she had became British/American - Someone made a copy of the original page that can be found in the document folder of the Archives - so we were able to confirm that observation!
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I think I mentioned Blonde Harmony on an early post..too far back to remember which one....
Chris...I thought Ursula was Swiss?
it may be that professional writers are be subject to the same problems of we amateurs ..
Can't see the wood for the trees sometimes..leading to the odd gaffe....
And what seemed like a good idea at the time...doesn't in hindsight!
And I sort of like Shaqui's idea of keeping characterisations nebulous...after all...if they're 'boxed up'..as you so rightly say...where's the fun creating our OWN!!
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Then checked my video of Swarm which shows the other 4 Angels together. Harmony and Symphony were recognizable, but it was difficult to determine which was Rhapsody and Melody - one sounded English the other American but they didn't say much and you don't really get a good view of both. An English voice welcomes Captain Blue and he chats with Harmony and a dark haired Angel with an American accent (Melody??). When they rush out of the room to escape the swarm a Destiny look-alike runs out too but I never saw her in the room at the start.
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I got the above information off the net - so now we know. Actually she's ideal Anderson material - a real confusion of nationalities!
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Actually while I can remember Destiny clearly enough (alas!) and Harmony, I can't remember what the rest of them look like at all, let alone which is which.
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There's no way you'd imagine the puppets could be related (unless there's something Jeff wasn't telling ) but they were a damn sight harder to mix up.
I suppose really we just don't see enough of the CGI angels to get to know them and thus tell them apart.
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A big apology for harping on about the 'old series' again but I really think the way it used the titles to both set up the premise and story plus showing the main characters was brilliant. Anyone could dip in without having watched previous episodes and immediately get the gist of what was going on.
Plus, it was really classy and different.
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Anyway, don't apologise for "harping on about the 'old series'"!You can't help comparing CGI with classic - they're both very different, ang great for totally different reasons! As I've said before, I don't prefer one over the other - I like both for such different reasons, I can't pick a favourite!
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This raises the question of why was the decision taken in 1967 when making its follow-up, i.e. Captain Scarlet, to restrict its time slot to just 25 minutes? I've often wondered about that one, bearing in mind that the potential to explore the personalities of a larger cast than just the main four or five characters was obviously anticipated. After all, Thunderbirds had already shown that it could be done - and the result was a spectacular success. And after Scarlet came UFO, which returned to the 50-minute format once more. So why not Scarlet? Does anybody know? Were production budgets a little tight at the time?
It makes me wonder whether it might have been a better idea this time around to concentrate on a shorter series of longer shows, than duplicate the original format. That's essentially how Doctor Who has been repackaged for the 21st century, and the result has certainly been well-received, not least because of the consequent greater capacity for personality development, not only of the heroes but also of the aliens. Who can forget the electrifying insight into the mentality of the Dalek in the episode of the same name? That's the sort of treatment we need for the Mysterons!
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Would have been nice if they'd been able to do that for CS - original and CGI. I think the storylines would have worked better if they hadn't had to be crammed into a 25 minutes slot.
Mind you given the 3 minute attention span of the average child today - (or so they claim) - its likely they'd have given up if it had lasted more then 25 minutes... (No stamina...)
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'Thunderbirds' was increased to an 'hour' show because of Lew Grade, and the budget increased to shoot additional material. It is incorrect to say they simply shot cheaper character material - models had to be rebuilt and filmed too - and scenes which had originally been edited much tighter were shown more in their entirety. But the reworked scripts allowed for character development to be added which would not have been the case in the half-hour versions.
Another lesson was learned in international sales, when TV companies split each hour in two, as there were no 'hour' children's TV slots! So it made commercial scene to revert to the half-hour format, and concentrate on action. 'Joe 90' attempted more character, and I have a greater appreciation of the subtlety of the scripts now, than I ever did when younger. I can see why the series was not a success at the time, as kids were probably bored with it...
And then there's 'The Secret Service'...
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