The European Atom War (Original CS)
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Maltray AKA Captain Cobalt
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What had brought the countries involved to that impasse, I couldn't say - or even remember.... I think I was laughing too much
I must go rifle through my comics and see if I can find it...
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Marion
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2028 8th. April. '
Great' Atomic War in Europe begins as a result of
an accidental communications breakdown - only
tactical nuclear weapons used.
2029 October. Excact Date Unknown
Conrad Turner orphaned as result of atomic war.
2034 1st. February.
'Great' Atomic War ends in Europe - peace treaty
signed by all participants.
Someother intreasting facts that happen because of it are:
2017 14th. July.
Colonel White (Charles Gray) born.
2034 1st. February.
United Nations proposes fully empowered World
Government to safeguard against such a disaster
ever occurring again.
2036 17th. December.
Captain Scarlet (Paul Metcalfe) born.
2046 December.
Civil war Great Britain erupts and dictatorship is
overthrown (not 2047).
I do hope no one will mind if I tie in a few things:
2023
Zelda's forces discover and attack the Mysteron
complex on Mars.
2023
Zelda leaves Mars with her whole fleet as an
agent of the Mysterons - with instructions to
begin a war of nerves against Guk in response to
her unprovoked attack on their complex.
2027
Zero X MK.III is upgraded for hydromic fuel to
allow practical exploration of the Solar System,
i.e. six week flight to Mars reduced to three days.
2065
Charles Grey nominated Air-Marshal Zodiac's
successor as Head of USS but he refuses in favour
of becoming Spectrum CiC.
2068 January.
Captain Black discovers and mistakenly attacks
the source of the signals - the Mysteron complex
(not October as other site have suggested).
I guess we all know what happenes form there but what of the earth city Khara on Mars?
Maltray AKA Captain Cobalt
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Maltray wrote:I do hope no one will mind if I tie in a few things:
2023
Zelda's forces discover and attack the Mysteron
complex on Mars.
2023
Zelda leaves Mars with her whole fleet as an
agent of the Mysterons - with instructions to
begin a war of nerves against Guk in response to
her unprovoked attack on their complex.
2027
Zero X MK.III is upgraded for hydromic fuel to
allow practical exploration of the Solar System,
i.e. six week flight to Mars reduced to three days.
I guess we all know what happenes form there but what of the earth city Khara on Mars?
Hmmm... you've been reading Keith Ansell's unified Anderson chronology, haven't you?
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shaqui
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Maltray wrote:
I do hope no one will mind if I tie in a few things
Be my guest.... I doubt if anything could make the chronology any more confused than it already is... I certainly don't have any fixed ideas about where, what, or why things happened. Trying to make sense of the incredibly packed lives of the precocious members of Spectrum is bad enough without adding in the rest of the Anderverse....
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Marion
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shaqui wrote:Maltray wrote:I do hope no one will mind if I tie in a few things:
2023
Zelda's forces discover and attack the Mysteron
complex on Mars.
2023
Zelda leaves Mars with her whole fleet as an
agent of the Mysterons - with instructions to
begin a war of nerves against Guk in response to
her unprovoked attack on their complex.
2027
Zero X MK.III is upgraded for hydromic fuel to
allow practical exploration of the Solar System,
i.e. six week flight to Mars reduced to three days.
I guess we all know what happenes form there but what of the earth city Khara on Mars?
Hmmm... you've been reading Keith Ansell's unified Anderson chronology, haven't you?
No comment he he, I te alot of the stuff in anyways I just don't include some of the live action stuff such as Space 1999 and U.F.O I consider them to be altinate universes.
Maltray AKA Captain Cobalt
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In 2028, an Englishman was playing golf. The 17th fairway ran alongside a main road. As he drove off, the man was stung by a wasp. The ball shot across the road and hit the controls of a robot digger which was digging a trench. The digger cut three feet more than it should have done, cutting the telephone cables. On the phone was the Prime Minister and an Air General. The Prime Minister was in the middle of saying to the Air General 'Don't argue when I order you to press the button... but that time's not now' - but the line was cut before the final phrase got through, and the Air General thought he had received the order to fire - which he did.
Mat goes on to explain to Steve that if their captors get their hands on Fireball's weaponry there could well be a war - and that since Venus is French, if her grandfather were killed in such a conflict, then Venus would cease to exist when Fireball returns to the future: a potent reminder that if they do manage to return to 2065, they have to ensure that they take absolutely everything they've brought with them.
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Marion
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Doc Brown wrote:Marion - you're right about the Fireball XL5 story: it appeared in issue 47 of TV21 (11th December 2065), in a story in which XL5 is fitted with a revolutionary new rocket which propels the craft back to November 1966. Landing in Washington (because Space City doesn't yet exist) the crew are taken prisoner by the American military, and while in captivity, Mat explains to Steve how the European War of 2028 started. The explanation was that...
In 2028, an Englishman was playing golf. The 17th fairway ran alongside a main road. As he drove off, the man was stung by a wasp. The ball shot across the road and hit the controls of a robot digger which was digging a trench. The digger cut three feet more than it should have done, cutting the telephone cables. On the phone was the Prime Minister and an Air General. The Prime Minister was in the middle of saying to the Air General 'Don't argue when I order you to press the button... but that time's not now' - but the line was cut before the final phrase got through, and the Air General thought he had received the order to fire - which he did.
Mat goes on to explain to Steve that if their captors get their hands on Fireball's weaponry there could well be a war - and that since Venus is French, if her grandfather were killed in such a conflict, then Venus would cease to exist when Fireball returns to the future: a potent reminder that if they do manage to return to 2065, they have to ensure that they take absolutely everything they've brought with them.
Very intreasting Doc Brown, but wouldn't Matt telling the American military give them fore knowlege of the event. It might be that the information is held till such a time they could make sure the digger was elsewhere, thus creating a time paradox
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Maltray wrote:Doc Brown wrote:Marion - you're right about the Fireball XL5 story: it appeared in issue 47 of TV21 (11th December 2065), in a story in which XL5 is fitted with a revolutionary new rocket which propels the craft back to November 1966. Landing in Washington (because Space City doesn't yet exist) the crew are taken prisoner by the American military, and while in captivity, Mat explains to Steve how the European War of 2028 started. The explanation was that...
In 2028, an Englishman was playing golf. The 17th fairway ran alongside a main road. As he drove off, the man was stung by a wasp. The ball shot across the road and hit the controls of a robot digger which was digging a trench. The digger cut three feet more than it should have done, cutting the telephone cables. On the phone was the Prime Minister and an Air General. The Prime Minister was in the middle of saying to the Air General 'Don't argue when I order you to press the button... but that time's not now' - but the line was cut before the final phrase got through, and the Air General thought he had received the order to fire - which he did.
Mat goes on to explain to Steve that if their captors get their hands on Fireball's weaponry there could well be a war - and that since Venus is French, if her grandfather were killed in such a conflict, then Venus would cease to exist when Fireball returns to the future: a potent reminder that if they do manage to return to 2065, they have to ensure that they take absolutely everything they've brought with them.
Very intreasting Doc Brown, but wouldn't Matt telling the American military give them fore knowlege of the event. It might be that the information is held till such a time they could make sure the digger was elsewhere, thus creating a time paradox
Mat didn't tell them openly - he thought he was telling Steve and Venus in private, but the room was bugged.
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Maltray AKA Captain Cobalt
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Personally I reckon the problem is that we assume that there's just one absolute reality within which all the paradoxes inherent in time travel have to be sorted out, whereas if you assume that there exist alternate realities, then time travel allows (indeed it forces) you to hop from one to another. But that's just one of my hobby-horses, and I don't think it would be particularly helpful to start a debate on the subject (though I know there's at least one person out there who will cheerfully pitch in on anything of the kind that gets going!). Since the whole subject is still being argued about by theoretical physicists the world over, we'd probably end up with the sort of squabble that religious orders used to have in the Middle Ages about how many angels you could fit on the head of a pin**].
[* And that could be used as an argument to prove that time travel is impossible anyway. I don't subscribe to it myself, but that's because I don't believe we understand how the Universe works yet. I also don't think we ever will - after all, as a species we've been trying for as long as we've had brains to think with, so why should we be so certain that we've almost got it right this time?]
[** One! The other four would obviously have to push her off it before sitting down.]
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Clya Brown
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Doc Brown wrote:
[* And that could be used as an argument to prove that time travel is impossible anyway. I don't subscribe to it myself, but that's because I don't believe we understand how the Universe works yet. I also don't think we ever will - after all, as a species we've been trying for as long as we've had brains to think with, so why should we be so certain that we've almost got it right this time?
I like Douglas Adams view on the nature of the universe: that if anyone ever figures out what the universe is and why it is here, it will instantly vanish and be replaced by something even more inexplicable. There are some that argue that this is going on all the time.
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