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Unread postPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:04 pm
by Clya Brown
I can think of three possible explanations.

a) They were from different provinces, spoke completely different dialects, and didn't want to communicate solely in picture-character writing;

b) They actually were speaking the same dialect of Chinese, but the series was naturally dubbed for broadcasting to English-speaking countries;

c) Gerry Anderson couldn't find a Chinese person to do the voiceover.

Take your pick!

Unread postPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:06 pm
by DanDud88
Well they did Rusian voices in "Best Of Enemies"

Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:01 am
by shadokp
I enjoyed this one, as usual. Didn't find anything wrong with it other than the minor nitpicks. Good to see Green get more to do - she is animated well!!

KP

Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:30 am
by Aegis
Engrish, people please :D

www.engrish.com

Nice job on Proteus Howard (VoxeLove) forgot how damn good all that water stuff looked :D :D

Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:07 am
by VoxeLove
Aegis wrote:Nice job on Proteus Howard (VoxeLove) forgot how damn good all that water stuff looked :D :D


DOH! Now youve revealed my secret identiity! :wink:
Cheers mate! Lets not forget Femis cool explosions!

Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:26 am
by Chris C
VoxeLove wrote:

It was really cool to see the entire episode with all the trimmings after not seeing it for a few months. I really liked the action in this one!


I'm curious now, as I remember seeing another comment from someone a while ago saying he hadn't seen one of the episodes he'd worked on. I thought you guys would have been the first to see the completed episodes, especially those you worked on?

Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:26 am
by shaqui
Aegis wrote:Engrish, people please :D

www.engrish.com


Ah yes indeedly.

Carry the satisfaction to your friends, and leave the dissatisfaction to us.

Damn, he's got us fans nailed... :lol:

Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:11 pm
by VoxeLove
Chris C wrote:I'm curious now, as I remember seeing another comment from someone a while ago saying he hadn't seen one of the episodes he'd worked on. I thought you guys would have been the first to see the completed episodes, especially those you worked on?


I did see the episode, just hadnt seen it in 5 months. :)

Most of the time we saw them from start to finish. From Script>Low-res Animatics>Rendered Shots>Final Cut
We viewed dailies of the episode as shots were completed until the glorious day when the episode was complete!
Then the whips came crashing down and it was BACK TO WORK! :wink:

Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:10 pm
by DanDud88
Iv just relised something the mysterons take over the proteus realy easy. Weve seen the mysterons try to distroy Skybase in a few episodes. Why cant the mysterons just take over skybase and crash it like they did with proteus.

Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:21 pm
by steviep
DanDud88 wrote:Iv just relised something the mysterons take over the proteus realy easy. Weve seent he mysterons try to distroy Skybase in a few episodes. Why cant the mysterons just take over skybase and crash it like they did with proteus.


Where would be the fun in that? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:24 pm
by Clya Brown
Exactly! The biggest plot hole of 'em all, and we haven't got an answer to it! I've been whingeing about this sort of thing for ages, and does anybody try to do anything about it? Of course not! Unfortunately I can't see any way out of it: we have to assume that for some reason, Skybase is a cut above the average when it comes to being susceptible to the powers of the Mysterons.

I don't like it, and I didn't like it in the original series, when for example we saw the Mysterons turn an oil valve on by remote control, change the molecular structure of a bottle of champagne, take over the controls of an airliner etc etc - and yet they can't even crash something as potentially easy to sabotage as a flying aircraft carrier! I guess one just has to suspend disbelief over things like that.

Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:57 pm
by Chris C
Doc, did you not HEAR what the Mysterons said in this episode? "Why should we destroy you when you are quite happy to do it yourselves?" (Something like that anyway). If they are just having a bit of fun with the Earth Men, why would they want to go and spoil it?!!

Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:12 pm
by Clya Brown
Sure - I heard what they said. But the problem is apparent every single time the Mysterons attempt to do something nasty to us, only to find themselves thwarted in the final analysis by Spectrum - which actually occurs most of the time! And the best way to deal a crushing blow to Spectrum is to destroy Skybase. So why isn't Skybase a primary target?

This one goes right back to the question of how serious the Mysterons actually are. In the original series, yes - they were toying with us. They probably could have destroyed Cloudbase, but they wanted to make Spectrum squirm a bit, so they didn't bother. But this time around? This time, it isn't my impression they're feeling so playful. They're really out to get us - the Proteus incident was a genuine attempt to set the planet ablaze, after all - but in general they're not setting about it in a rational manner. That's the plot hole to which I'm referring - not one in this episode, but in the concept as a whole.

Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:42 pm
by Marion
Doc Brown Says:
This one goes right back to the question of how serious the Mysterons actually are. In the original series, yes - they were toying with us. They probably could have destroyed Cloudbase, but they wanted to make Spectrum squirm a bit, so they didn't bother. But this time around? This time, it isn't my impression they're feeling so playful. They're really out to get us - the Proteus incident was a genuine attempt to set the planet ablaze, after all - but in general they're not setting about it in a rational manner. That's the plot hole to which I'm referring - not one in this episode, but in the concept as a whole.

I think this is one of the things that bugs me about the new series. I really wonder how much of what's going on in the 'war of nerves' (now NCS has finally used the phrase) is understood by the viewers who are not familiar with the original series? And if it really is important any more that the Mysterons do have an identifiable 'character' or modus operendi?
Several of the stories have been concerned with the Mysterons' ability to subvert computer technolgy/robots/machines to make their attacks - if they can do that what's to stop them just 'pulling the plug' on the whole planet's computerised systems and wiping us out..?
Presumably the Mysterons are now meant to appear even more dangerous - in that they can achieve so much without needing a human agent and avoiding the need to kill their victim/agent as a consequence. Even Captain Black is apparantly not needed everytime they launch an attack. Correct me if I'm wrong - which I am sure there are many eager to do - but wasn't Black present for every Mysteron attack in the original series?
Without the weekly threat, the only link to the Mysterons is the green light and the rings... especially as MoM in it's - and I use the phrase lightly - wisdom, now no longer runs the opening credits - as obscure as they were in explaining what had happened to our hero back on Mars...

These Mysterons do seem more vindictive and more 'warlike' - despite their protestations of being peaceful - and able to carry out their schemes far more effectively. But they do not do it.
Spectrum is still very much in the dark - they have still not devised anything other than a 'genetic' blood test to identify Mysteron agents...
I remember Scarlet getting voices in his head occasionally, but does he even get nauseous in this series?

Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:15 pm
by Marcus
Now this really was an epic - shades of James Bond and even the new Star Wars films with the attacking robots, all wrapped up with a rousing motion picture style score. The music has ben improving along with the animation, and no clunky corny dialogue that afflicted the first episodes.

My only minor criticism is that three male characters on the boat - Scarlet and the two younger sailors - looked very similar to each other. And while the Mysterons had no problem picking off ALL the sailors, the Spectrum personnel ALL seemed to be indestructible...

Action packed with brilliant CGI - they've done it again! :grin: